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【追書時報 27 】彼得·蓋伊(1923—2015),美國文化史學者《浪漫派為什麼重要》2023: Peter Gay's book 2015, Why the Romantics Matter. 漢清講堂2015 紀念 Peter Gay 三講:談 Peter Gay 的一些著作 (梁永安、鍾漢清) 《威瑪文化》(彭淮棟) 2015

 【追書時報 27 】彼得·蓋伊(1923—2015),美國文化史學者《浪漫派為什麼重要》2023:  Peter Gay's book 2015, Why the Romantics Matter.    漢清講堂2015  紀念 Peter Gay 三講:談 Peter Gay 的一些著作 (梁永安、鍾漢清) 《威瑪文化》(彭淮棟) 2015    

我們漢清講堂在2015年作過3影片來紀念名史家,當時唯一不知道的作品是該年2015年出版的Why the Romantics Matter。這本在2023年中國有翻譯:《浪漫派為什麼重要》  


紀念 Peter Gay 三講:談 Peter Gay 的一些著作 (梁永安、鍾漢清);、談《威瑪文化》(彭淮棟) 

2015年6月27日下午8:53 · 
英文gay指同性戀,最先是1933年,不過這到1960年代,還只是圈內人的用法。到80年代才成為"標準語"。
所以1941年 Peter Gay舉家逃亡美國歸化時1946 (一說1941),將自己姓名Peter Joachim Fröhlich意譯成Peter Gay沒有特別意思。
說一下這是德國文化圈常用的英繹,2例:
(The Gay Science (1882 (German: Die fröhliche Wissenschaft/Literally "The Happy Science") ) By Friedrich Nietzsche 1844-1900);Hermann Broch 說1880年代的維也納:"圍繞在1880年代的歡愉的啟示錄 (the gay apocalypse)。" --Peter Gay的Freud: A Life for Our Time, 1988




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紀念 Peter Gay, part I -- 鍾漢清談 Peter Gay 的一些著作
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主題:談Peter Gay 的一些著作主持人:梁永安、鍾漢清

時間:2015年7月1日(星期三) 上午,10-12點地址:漢清講堂:台北市新生南路三 ...


An erudite guide to the German and Austrian literary tradition http://timesl.it/6186DMS84
Schnitzler's Century, 2002
     《史尼茨勒的世紀:中產階級文化的形成,1815-1914 》,梁永安譯,台北:立緒,2004


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紀念Peter Gay, part III-- 彭淮棟談:《威瑪文化》 主題:談Peter Gay 的一些著作主持人:梁永安、鍾漢清時間:2015年7月1日(星期三) ...


2015.4.22 籌備一場彭淮棟翻譯Thomas Mann《浮士德博士》討論會,發現Mann 在《極端的年代》只是一腳注:1914年已成名的作家-藝術家。Peter Gay 懂德語,所以這本《 現代主義》 (Modernism)(梁永安譯)索引中的6~7處引Mann ,稱之為反諷大師,社會史大家......
Books 書海微瀾: Peter Gay/梁永安譯《 現代主義》 (Modernism)、 《啟蒙運動》
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Why the Romantics Matter

June 11, 2015| History, Humanities

We are deeply saddened by esteemed historian Peter Gay’s passing. A Sterling Professor of History Emeritus at Yale University and former director of the New York Public Library Center for Scholars and Writers, his eminent scholarship on the Enlightenment, Freud, and a wide range of additional topics in European history will shape our discussions for years to come. In this excerpt from Why the Romantics Matter, Gay enters the long-standing debate over the romantic period and reformulates the definition of romanticism, providing a fresh account of the colossal achievements of romantic writers and artists. Gay argues that we need to accept the complicated nature of romanticism and challenge the traditional historical narrative that has established it as a reaction to the Enlightenment. He demonstrates that romanticism extends well into the twentieth century, where its deep and lasting impact may be measured in the work of writers and artists that continue to influence us today. The following is an excerpt from Why the Romantics Matter.


romantics_matter[In Introduction to Contemporary Civilization at Columbia University] we could all agree, no matter what specialty we brought with us, that there was, say, roughly covering the eighteenth century, a powerful innovative movement called the Enlightenment, followed by a vehement cultural eruption best known as the romantic Reaction. The two, Enlightenment and romanticism, were consequential intellectual currents fully understandable only after the latter had been securely identified as a response to the former. There was, we believed, a kind of symmetry between the two that could only ease the work of teacher and student alike.

Ease it, so some doubtful participants—including me—held, too much. The summary notion of action and reaction was evidently too simple, even mechanical. There were romantics, we discovered, who did not know that they belonged to a massive act of rejection. There were enlightened philosophes who had as much passion for passion, praised the imagination as highly, as the most romantic of romantics. More, the very notion of a unified cluster of ideas collectively known as romanticism seemed excessive: if there were German romantics and French romantics, they did not start from the same initial impulse, did not develop the same cultural expressions in their literature and their art. Would it be rational, some of us conjectured, that the only sound way to think about romanticism was to consider it as a plural which had, in the hands of great simplifiers, been shorn of its final and necessary multiplicity?

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However marginal romanticism may have long been, I was naturally awake to its contentious nature; the disputed place of Rousseau in its founding, the astonishing refusal of prominent romantics like Lord Byron to accept the role of romantic; those romantics obviously progressive, even radical, in their political convictions, thus defying the notion of romanticism as necessarily a hostile response to the Enlightenment—all such crosscurrents made every attempt to define it improbable if not unthinkable. And the rapidly growing secondary literature on the subject did nothing to pacify partisans; on the contrary, as positions hardened, the warfare among interpreters grew more embittered. Since conclusions about the very nature of romanticism remained debatable, the issue of just how it mattered—the topic of this series—also remained highly uncertain.


Why X Matters is a series of books that present a concise argument for the continuing relevance of an important person or idea by featuring intriguing pairings of authors with subjects.

浪漫主義為何重要

2015年6月11日 | 歷史、人文

我們對著名歷史學家彼得蓋伊的逝世深感悲痛。蓋伊是耶魯大學斯特林歷史學榮譽教授,曾任紐約公共圖書館學者與作家中心主任。他對啟蒙運動、佛洛伊德以及歐洲歷史許多其他領域的卓越學術成就,將繼續影響我們未來多年的討論。在《浪漫主義為何重要》一書的節選中,蓋伊加入了關於浪漫主義時期的長期爭論,重新定義了浪漫主義,並對浪漫主義作家和藝術家的巨大成就進行了全新的解讀。蓋伊認為,我們需要正視浪漫主義的複雜性,並挑戰將其視為啟蒙運動反動的傳統歷史敘事。他指出,浪漫主義一直延續到二十世紀,其深遠而持久的影響體現在至今仍在影響著我們的作家和藝術家的作品中。以下摘自《浪漫主義為何重要》。

[在哥倫比亞大學當代文明導論課程中] 無論我們各自的專業背景如何,我們都能達成共識:大約在十八世紀,存在著一場強大的創新運動,即啟蒙運動;隨後,一場劇烈的文化爆發,即著名的浪漫主義反動。啟蒙運動和浪漫主義是兩股影響深遠的知識潮流,只有當後者被明確地認定為對前者的回應之後,才能真正理解啟蒙運動和浪漫主義。我們相信,兩者之間存在某種對稱性,這無疑會簡化師生雙方的工作。

然而,有些心存疑慮的參與者──包括我──認為,這種簡化未免有些過頭了。行動與反動的概括性概念顯然過於簡單,甚至有些機械。我們發現,有些浪漫主義者甚至沒有意識到,他們所參與的正是一場大規模的反抗運動。有些開明的哲學家對激情的熱情絲毫不亞於最浪漫的浪漫主義者,他們對想像的推崇也毫不遜色。此外,將一系列思想統稱為浪漫主義,這種概念本身似乎就有些誇張:即便存在德國浪漫主義者和法國浪漫主義者,他們的出發點也截然不同,在文學和藝術中發展出的文化表達也各不相同。我們當中有些人不禁猜想,思考浪漫主義的唯一合理方式,是否應該將其視為一個多元體,而這個多元體在那些極力簡化的人手中,被剝奪了其最終且必然的多樣性?

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儘管浪漫主義長期以來一直處於邊緣地位,但我自然而然地意識到它本身就充滿爭議:盧梭在其創立中的地位備受爭議;像拜倫勳爵這樣的著名浪漫主義者竟然拒絕接受自己是浪漫主義者這一身份,這令人匪夷所思;那些政治信念明顯進步甚至激進的浪漫主義者竟然拒絕接受自己是浪漫主義者必然是對蒙思潮運動的敵意;那些政治信念明顯進步甚至激進的浪漫主義者,顯然挑戰了浪漫主義甚至可能是對這一主義甚至無法定義這一努力的重要觀點。而關於這一主題的二手文獻也迅速增長,這非但沒有平息各方的爭論,反而隨著立場的日益強硬,詮釋者之間的爭論也愈發激烈。由於關於浪漫主義本質的結論仍然存在爭議,因此,它究竟有何意義——本系列叢書的主題——也仍然高度不確定。

《為何X重要》系列叢書旨在透過巧妙地將作者與主題結合,簡潔明了地論證某個重要人物或思想的持續意義。

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彼得蓋伊的著作《浪漫主義為何重要》認為,浪漫主義是一場複雜而矛盾的運動,它強調想像力而非理性主義,並對後世藝術家和作家產生了深遠的影響,至今仍在影響著現代文化。蓋伊探討了浪漫主義藝術家在各種媒材上的成就,展現了他們如何「重新賦予」受啟蒙運動影響的世界魅力,以及他們的遺產如何在現代主義作品中得以體現,包括T·S·艾略特和弗吉尼亞·伍爾夫等作家的作品。


一場複雜而至關重要的運動:蓋伊認為,理解浪漫主義的最佳途徑是承認其矛盾之處,而不是尋求單一的統一定義。


對現代主義的影響:本書論證了現代主義藝術和文學如何深受浪漫主義及其對傳統的突破的影響。


關鍵人物和主題:蓋伊考察了貝多芬和奧斯卡·王爾德等人物,探討了浪漫主義對藝術想像力、情感和精神表達以及畫廊主和評論家等文化“中間人”的作用等領域的影響。


涵蓋範圍廣泛:本書涉及文學、繪畫和音樂等多個藝術領域,並探討了德國、英國、法國和瑞士等不同國家的浪漫主義。


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Peter Gay's book, 
Why the Romantics Matter, argues that romanticism was a complex and contradictory movement that continues to influence modern culture through its emphasis on imagination over rationalism and its impact on later artists and writers. Gay explores the achievements of romantic artists across various media, showing how they "re-enchanted" a world influenced by the Enlightenment and how their legacy can be seen in modernist works, including those of writers like T.S. Eliot and Virginia Woolf. 
  • A complicated but vital movement: Gay argues that romanticism is best understood by acknowledging its contradictions rather than seeking a single, unified definition.
  • Influence on modernism: The book demonstrates how modernist art and literature are indebted to romanticism and its break from tradition.
  • Key figures and themes: Gay examines figures like Beethoven and Oscar Wilde, exploring the impact of romanticism on areas such as artistic imagination, emotional and spiritual expression, and the role of cultural "middlemen" like gallerists and critics.
  • A broad scope: The book spans various artistic fields, including literature, painting, and music, and covers romanticism across different countries, such as Germany, Britain, France, and Switzerland. 
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浪漫派為什麼重要

  • 作者: (美)彼得·蓋伊
  • 譯者: 王燕秋
  • 出版社:譯林出版社
  • 出版日期:2023/06/01
  • 語言:簡體中文

內容簡介

本書重新闡釋了浪漫主義的定義,並認為“複數”的浪漫主義是真正把握其精髓和表現的途徑。在彼得·蓋伊的筆下,來自德國、法國和英國的浪漫派先驅具有各自獨特的風格,也呈現出某種“家族相似性”。

蓋伊還證明浪漫派的影響一直延續到20世紀,其深刻的烙印可以在T.S.艾略特和弗吉尼亞·伍爾夫身上找到。


 

作者介紹

彼得·蓋伊(1923—2015),美國文化史學者,耶魯大學斯特林榮休教授,曾獲美國全國圖書獎。蓋伊一生著述超過25本,其中《啟蒙時代》《魏瑪文化》《布爾喬亞經驗》(五卷)等作品奠定了他在同時代歷史學者中的重要地位。

Why the Romantics Matter

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Yale University Press, Jan 28, 2015 - Literary Criticism - 176 pages
With his usual wit and élan, esteemed historian Peter Gay enters the contentious, long-standing debates over the romantic period. Here, in this concise and inviting volume, he reformulates the definition of romanticism and provides a fresh account of the immense achievements of romantic writers and artists in all media.
 
Gay’s scope is wide, his insights sharp. He takes on the recurring questions about how to interpret romantic figures and their works. Who qualifies to be a romantic? What ties together romantic figures who practice in different countries, employ different media, even live in different centuries? How is modernism indebted to romanticism, if at all?
 
Guiding readers through the history of the romantic movement across Britain, France, Germany, and Switzerland, Gay argues that the best way to conceptualize romanticism is to accept its complicated nature and acknowledge that there is no “single basket” to contain it. Gay conceives of romantics in “families,” whose individual members share fundamental values but retain unique qualities. He concludes by demonstrating that romanticism extends well into the twentieth century, where its deep and lasting impact may be measured in the work of writers such as T. S. Eliot and Virginia Woolf.
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The ReEnchantment of the World
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Romantic Psychology
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Middlemen as Pedagogues
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Art for Artists Sake
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The Beethoven Decades
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Epilogue
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Notes
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Bibliography
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Acknowledgments
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Peter Gay is Sterling Professor of History Emeritus, Yale University, and former director of the New York Public Library Center for Scholars and Writers. He is the author of dozens of books and has won numerous awards for his scholarship, including the National Book Award and a Gold Medal from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. He lives in New York City.

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TitleWhy the Romantics Matter
Why X Matters Series
AuthorPeter Gay
Editionunabridged
PublisherYale University Press, 2015
ISBN0300210094, 9780300210095
Length176 pages
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