2026年6月13日 星期六

初次翻 Martin Greenberg 的英譯本(2013) 的 5處 :末處 The Chorus mysticus. :‘The devil is old; you must become old to understand him.’— Faust: A Tragedy, Parts One and Two, Fully Revised by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (Author), 三感想: 歌德的Dedication 初的迷宮 "...I retrace life's labyrinthine..." VS MODELS OF MY LIFE. 第2衝擊 : The exact phrase "In the beginning was the Deed" comes from Johann Wolfgang von Goethe's classic play, Faust. In the famous "Study" scene, the protagonist, Faust, struggles to translate the opening line of the Gospel of John ("In the beginning was the Word") into German and ultimately decides that "Deed" (Tat) is the most meaningful starting point for human existence. 封底摘錄 H. BLOOM 的書評關於 CANON 詩歌的六面?考量 (翻譯))

 


 Faust: A Tragedy, Parts One and Two, Martin Greenberg英譯本2013:

The Chorus mysticus is the majestic, enigmatic concluding stanza of Johann Wolfgang von Goethe's Faust: Part II. It serves as a mystical summary of the entire epic, suggesting that all earthly, transient phenomena are merely symbols, and that the "Eternal-Feminine" represents the ultimate redemptive and guiding force. [1, 2, 3, 4]
The Original German Text
Alles Vergängliche
Ist nur ein Gleichnis;
Das Unzulängliche,
Hier wird’s Ereignis;
Das Unbeschreibliche,
Hier ist’s getan;
Das Ewig-Weibliche
Zieht uns hinan. [1]
English Translation
All things transitory
Are but a symbol;
The insufficient,
Here becomes event;
The indescribable,
Here is done;
The Eternal-Feminine
Draws us on high.
[1, 2, 3]
Musical Settings
Because of its profound philosophical weight, this text has been immortalized in major classical masterworks:

  • Gustav Mahler's Symphony No. 8: The entire second part of Mahler's massive "Symphony of a Thousand" is a setting of the final scene of Faust, culminating in a transcendent and overwhelming rendition of the Chorus mysticus. [1]
  • Franz Liszt's A Faust Symphony: Liszt revised his masterwork to include a transcendent tenor and male Chorus mysticus ending, acting as a serene and redemptive foil to the Mephistopheles movement. [1, 2, 3]


浮士德Faust是這樣重要的一本書,已成為經典,我們可以舉尼采(1986)《超善惡:未來哲學序曲 236/條》(詳下)和易卜生(Ibsen)在1867年完成 Peer Gynt《培爾 金特》(蕭乾譯,台北:書林,1999,頁142。又可參考 Peter Watts 譯本(Penguin Classics1966)頁134的詳注和分析。…so that Peer aptly say” The Eternal Feminine leads us on’….

「正如一位名作家所說的:”Das ewig Weibliche ziechet uns an!*”」(*德語,永恆之女性領導我們前行。這是德國詩人哥德所著《浮士德》一書最後一語。)

由於蕭先生根據的英譯版本比較舊,所以不知道這裡有Ibsen 的故事筆誤:哥德原文是”…ziecht uns an!”
《浮士德》的譯文:
永恆的女性*
引我們飛升**(綠原,頁453,各行一詳注***永恆的女性*引領我們高升。(周學普,頁655*注。)
「那個為但丁和哥德所信仰的女人的東西前者既然他唱到『她抬頭仰祝,而我瞧著她』,後者,既然他把女人轉譯成:『永恆女性引著我們上升』-- 我不懷疑,每位高貴的女人都會向這種信仰抗爭。因為,女人所信仰的,恰是來自永恆性的東西……」(尼采(1886)《超善惡:未來哲學序曲》張念東、凌素心譯,北京:中央編譯出版社,2000,頁168。又請進一步參考 Laurence Lampert《尼采的使命:《超善惡:未來哲學序曲》的釋讀》李致遠、李小均譯,北京:華夏,2009,頁287-88。尼采的「男性學」和「女性學」等。又,尼采在《超善惡》還有一妙論:
That which Dante and Goethe believed of woman – the former when he sang ‘ella guardava suso, ed io in lei’ the latter when he translated it ‘the eternal-womanly draws us upward’ - : I do not doubt that every nobler woman will this belief, for that is precisely what she believes of eternal-manly…(Beyond Good and Evi: Prelude to a Philosophy of the Future by Nietsche, Penguin Classics, 1972)

 Faust: A Tragedy, Parts One and Two, Martin Greenberg英譯本2013:與下文不同   

我們簡單談一下 Faust 第二部與哥德《色彩論》的關係。根據Leshan & Margenau, Einstein's Space and Van Gogh's Sky, Collier Books, New York, 1982.14章:「牛頓與哥德的色彩諸世界:兩種真實領域」指出,一為科學之真實,一為詩人之感受,都應該尊重之。我們可以用
綠原《浮士德》的譯文的台北版本(台北;貓頭鷹)中注解來說明:在第二部的起頭和結束都有相關資料:

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‘The devil is old; you must become old to understand him.’—Faust
據說社會學大家韋伯(Max Weber1864-1920)晚年遭逢政治世局大變(1919),必須區分「責任倫理」(ethic of responsibility)與「良心倫理」(ethic of conscience),並引了浮士德》這樣的話:「魔道古老;你要活得夠久才會了解牠。」*

My words have left you cold, I gather,

May it be so for you, sweet children:

But think: the Devil’s a lot older,

So you need to be old to understand him!

我的話似乎讓你們感到冷漠,

願你們如此,親愛的孩子們:

但想想:魔鬼比我們年長許多,

所以你們需要長大才能理解他!

*出自《浮士德》第二部第二幕, 6815-6818行
梅菲斯特:「你們對於我的話很冷淡,/你們都是好孩子,我可以寬恕。/但想想!惡魔是老人,/你們老了之後,才會把惡魔的話語領悟。」(周學普譯浮士德(臺北:志文,頁388))
Lines 6815–24 refer to a specific moment in Act 1, Scene 3 of Johann Wolfgang von Goethe's Faust, Part II, where Mephistopheles confronts the Homunculus and a trio of mythological figures. [1]
The lines correspond to the following events and context:
The Scene: Classical Walpurgis Night
Mephistopheles, Faust, and Homunculus have traveled to the Phrygian fields in ancient Greece. They encounter various mythical creatures like the Sphinxes, Sirens, and Griffins. Faust is desperate to find Helen of Troy, while Mephistopheles finds himself entirely out of his element and deeply uncomfortable in this pagan world. [1, 2]
The Meaning of Lines 6815–24
In lines 6815–18, Mephistopheles explicitly expresses his disdain for the ancient mythical monsters he is interacting with, telling them that he is completely unmoved by their fables and leaves the mythological realms to the "good children" (the humans who believe in them). [1]
Historically and textually, this passage acts as a satirical device where Goethe contrasts the Christian, Northern-European devil (Mephistopheles) with the bright, sensual, and rational world of Classical Antiquity. [1, 2]
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Faust: A Tragedy, Parts One and Two, Fully Revised


“Greenberg has accomplished a magnificent literary feat. He has taken a great German work, until now all but inaccessible to English readers, and made it into a sparkling English poem, full of verve and wit. Greenberg's translation lives; it is done in a modern idiom but with respect for the original text; I found it a joy to read.”—Irving Howe (on the earlier edition)

A classic of world literature, Goethe’s
Faust is a philosophical and poetic drama full of satire, irony, humor, and tragedy. Martin Greenberg re-creates not only the text’s varied meter and rhyme but also its diverse tones and styles—dramatic and lyrical, reflective and farcical, pathetic and coarse, colloquial and soaring. His rendition of Faust is the first faithful, readable, and elegantly written translation of Goethe’s masterpiece available in English. At last, the Greenberg Faust is available in a single volume, together with a thoroughly updated translation, preface, and notes.



part ii

The exact phrase "In the beginning was the Deed" comes from Johann Wolfgang von Goethe's classic play, Faust. In the famous "Study" scene, the protagonist, Faust, struggles to translate the opening line of the Gospel of John ("In the beginning was the Word") into German and ultimately decides that "Deed" (Tat) is the most meaningful starting point for human existence. [1, 2, 3, 4]
This sentiment has also been explored in other contexts:
  • Philosophy: Renowned philosopher Bernard Williams used the phrase as the title for his essay collection, In the Beginning Was the Deed.
  • Proverb: A similar thematic proverb ("The thought manifests as the word; The word manifests as the deed...") is widely associated with spiritual traditions and is often adapted from texts like the Dhammapada. [1, 2, 3, 4]
If you are looking for more context on Goethe's Fau




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Editorial Reviews

Review

"Greenberg is quite remarkable, and at his best truly brilliant, in evoking the poetic ‘feel’ of Goethe’s original. I do not believe that any other version of Faust has attempted anything quite like it."—Cyrus Hamlin, Yale University (on the earlier edition of Part One)

"Goethe’s
Faust is an enigmatic and perhaps barely translatable masterpiece. Its grotesque and exuberant part 2 must be the most outrageous poem in the western canon. Martin Greenberg’s revised version conveys the outrage yet also shows again and again why the poem does stand with the major works of the western tradition."—Harold Bloom

"Greenberg has accomplished a magnificent literary feat. He has taken a great German work, until now all but inaccessible to English readers, and made it into a sparkling English poem, full of verve and wit. Greenberg's translation lives; it is done in a modern idiom but with respect for the original text; I found it a joy to read."—Irving Howe



About the Author

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749–1832) was a German poet, novelist, playwright, and politician. Martin Greenberg is best known for his translations of Goethe and von Kleist. He won a citation from the American Academy and Institute of Arts and Letters and received the Harold Morton Landon Verse Translation Award from the American Academy of Poets. W. Daniel Wilson is professor of German at Royal Holloway, University of London.

Excerpt. © Reprinted by permission. All rights reserved.

Faust A Tragedy

Parts One & Two Fully Revised

By Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe, Martin Greenberg

Yale UNIVERSITY PRESS

Copyright © 2013 Martin Greenberg
All rights reserved.
ISBN: 978-0-300-18969-8

Contents

Introduction by W. Daniel Wilson, ix,
Translator's Note, xix,
FAUST: A TRAGEDY,
Part One, 3,
Part Two, 169,
Notes, 443,


CHAPTER 1

"In the beginning was the Deed!"


PRELUDE IN THE THEATER

Manager, Poet, Clown

MANAGER. You two who've always stood by me
When times were hard and the playhouse empty,
What do you think we may hope for
From this tour of ours through German country?
I'd like to please the crowd here, for
They're really so easy-going, so patient,
The posts are up, the floorboards laid,
And all looking forward to the entertainment.
Staring about, composed, at ease,
They hope for a real surprise, each one,
I know with this audience how to please,
But I've never been in a fix like this one.
It's true what they're used to is pretty bad
But Lord, what a terrible lot they've read.
So how surprise them with something lively and new,
A piece with some meaning that amuses them too?
I don't deny what pleases me most
Are droves of people, a great host,
Trying with all their might to squeeze
Through the strait gate to our paradise,
When it's daylight still, not even four,
Using elbow and fist to get to the ticket seller,
Like starving men rushing the baker's door—
For the sake of a seat prepared to commit murder.
Who works such a wonder on such a mixture
Of people? Why, of course it's the poet,
So fall to, dear colleague, and let's see you do it!

POET. Don't talk to me about that crazy crowd,
One look at them and all my wits desert me!
Oh shield me from that shoving, shouting horde That swallows you up against your will completely!
No, lead me to some quiet, remote place
Where poets only know real happiness,
Where love and precious friends inspire and nurse
The blessed gift that is the power of verse.

Oh dear, what struggles up from deep inside us,
Syllables our lips shape hesitantly
Into scenes ineffective now, and now effective,
Is drowned out in the present's hurlyburly;
Years must pass till, seen in time's perspective,
Its shape and soul shine forth as they are truly.
What's all flash and glitter lives a day,
The real thing's treasured by posterity.

CLOWN. Posterity! Oh that word—don't let's start a row!
If all
I ever thought of was the hereafter,
Who'd set the audience laughing in the here and now?
To be amused, that's their hearts' desire.
Having a clown on the stage who knows what his business is
Is not to be sneezed at—it matters to know how to please. When yours is the stuff to delight and content a whole
theaterful,
You don't sourly mutter the public's a mob, always changeable.
What you want's a full house, the sign out saying Standing
Room Only,
For the bigger the house, the better the response you can
count on,
So be a good fellow and show us what true drama is really.
Your imagination, let it pour out like a fountain,
Its wonders matched by wisdom, good sense, feeling,
By passion too—but mind you, show us some fooling!

MANAGER. But what's the first requirement? Plenty of action!
They're spectators so what they want to see is things happen.
If you've got business going on every minute
That catches people's attention, their roving eyes rivet,
Then you don't have to worry, they're yours, they're won over,
When the curtain comes down they'll shout "Author! Author!"
With a public so large you need an abundance to please
them all.
Something for everyone, that's how to seize them all,
The last thing you want is to be classically economical.
In the theater today only scenes and set pieces do,
The way to succeed is to serve up a stew,
You can cook it up fast, dish it out easy too.
Now tell me, what good is your artistic unity,
The public will only make hash of it anyway.

POET. You don't understand—all that's just hackwork,
A true artist never stoops to such stuff!
Those fine purveyors of cheap patchwork
For you are the measure of dramatic truth.

MANAGER. Go ahead, scold me. I don't mind your censure.
To do a job right you use the tools that are called for.
Remember, it's soft wood you've got to split,
Consider the people for whom you write:
One's here because he's bored, another
Comes stuffed from eating a seven-course dinner,
But worst by far are the ones who come to us
Straight from reading the latest newspapers.
The crowd arrives here distracted, distrait,
Thinking of this and that, not of a play.
The reason they come is mere curiosity,
The ladies exhibit their shoulders and finery,
Put on a great show without asking a salary.
Oh, the dreams poets dream in their ivory tower!
Flattered, are you, to see the house full?
Well, take a good look at our clientele,
The half vulgar and loud, half unmoved and sour,
One's mind's on his card game after the play,
Another's on tumbling a girl in the hay.
It's for people like that you fools torture the Muses?
Listen to me: You'll never go wrong
If you pile it on, pile it on, and still pile it on.
Bewilder, confound them with all your variety,
The public's the public, they're a hard lot to satisfy.
But goodness, how worked up you seem to be!
What's wrong? I can't tell if it's anguish or ecstasy.

POET. Go out and find yourself some other lackey!
You expect the poet, do you, frivolously,
For the sake of your blue eyes to debase
Nature's finest gift to the human race?
How does he teach humankind feeling,
Master the elements, every one?
I'll tell you, by the music pealing
Forth from his breast orphically,
Which then by reflux back on him returning
Reverberates as Nature's deep-voiced harmony.
When Nature winds life's endless thread
Indifferently on the bobbin, when
The noisy cries of her countless creatures
No music make, uproar instead,
Who melodizes the monotonous din
And makes all move in living measures?
Who calls each mute particular
To sing its part in the general chorus
In a glorious concord of myriad voices?
Who links our passions to wild tempests,
Our solemn moods to fading sunsets?
Unrolls before the feet of lovers
A lovely carpet of spring flowers?
Twines green leaves meaning nothing at all
To crown those proven most worthy of all?
Assures us of Olympus, upon it assembled the gods?—
That revelation of man's powers, the poet, does!

CLOWN. Then go on and use them, your marvelous powers!
Go at your business of making verses
The way you go at a love adventure:
A chance encounter, you're attracted, linger,
And little by little you find yourself caught.
You're so happy, later you're not;
First you're enraptured, then it's nothing but trouble,
And before you know it it's a whole novel,
Write the play we want that way, you know how to do it!
Jump right into life's richness and riot,
All of us live life, few have an idea about it,
And my, how it interests wherever you scratch it!
Color, confusion, a wild hurlyburly,
With a glimmer of truth amid errors' obscurity,
And there you have it, exactly the right brew
To refresh everyone, make them think a bit too.
Then the best of our youth will flock here to listen,
Gripping their seats in anticipation.
The sensitive soul will find in your play
Food to feed his melancholy;
One thing touches one man, another another,
The end result is, all discover
What's in their hearts. The young are still ready
To laugh at a good thrust, let their tears flow in pity,
Warmly respond to lofty ambitions,
Cherishing still their bright dreams and illusions.
You'll never please those whose race is run,
For them there are no more surprises,
But the youth for whom all's just begun,
They will shower you with praises.

POET. Then give me back those times again
When I, too, was a leaf uncurled
And song after song poured out of me
Like a fountain flowing uninterruptedly;
When mist still veiled the morning world
And a bud was a promised miracle,
When I plucked the thousand flowers that filled
The vales with their rich spectacle.
The nothing I owned was more than enough,
By fictions delighted, impelled toward truth,
Oh give me back that unquelled ardor,
The happiness whose depth is pain,
The strength of hate, love's superpower,
Oh give me back my youth again!

CLOWN. Youth, my dear colleague, you need in the following cases:
When the enemy's crowding you hard in the fight,
When pretty girls in summer dresses
Kiss and squeeze you with all their might,
When running hard, you glimpse in the distance
The wreath that rewards the fleetest foot,
When after the madly whirling dances
With drinking you wear the night out.
But to sweep the old familiar harp strings
Boldly yet with fine grace too,
To make by pleasing indirections
For the end your drama has in view—
That's a job for you old fellows,
And we respect you for your skill;
Age doesn't make us childish, God knows,
Just finds us the same old children still.

MANAGER. We've talked enough, now let me see
Your tardy quill produce results,
Our business is to stage a play,
Not waste the time in compliments.
And please—don't say you're not in the mood,
It never arrives if you hesitate timidly.
You say you're a poet, good, very good,
Let's hear it, then, your poetry.
You know what's wanted, good strong stuff—
To work now, work, go right at it,
What's put off today, tomorrow's put off;
How precious to us is every minute.
A resolute spirit, acting timely,
Seizes occasion by the short hairs,
It won't let go but hangs on grimly,
Once committed, it perseveres.

You know how on our German stage
We're free to try whatever we please,
So don't imagine I want you to save
Me money on paint and properties.
Hang out heaven's big and little lamps,
Scatter stars over the canvas sky,
Let's have fire and flood and dizzying steeps,
All sorts of birds and beasts—do the thing liberally.
And thus on a narrow platform you're able
To go all the way round Creation's great circle
At a brisk enough pace, yet deliberately as well,
From Heaven, through this our world, down to Hell.


PROLOGUE IN HEAVEN

The Lord. The Heavenly Host. Then Mephistopheles. The three Archangels advance to front.

RAPHAEL. The sun as always sounds his music
In contest with each brother sphere,
Marching round and around, with steps terrific,
His appointed circle, year after year.
To see him lends us angels strength,
But what he
is, oh who can say?
The inconceivably great works are great
As on the first creating day.

GABRIEL. And swift, past all conception swift,
The jeweled globe spins on its axletree,
Celestial brightness alternating
With shuddering night's obscurity.
Against the rock-bound littoral
The sea is backwards seething hurled,
And rock and sea together hurtle
With the eternally turning world.

MICHAEL. And tempests vying, howling, riot
From sea to land, from land to sea,
Linking in tremendous circuit
A chain of blazing energy.
The thunderbolt makes ready for
The thunderclap a ruinous way—
Yet Lord, your servants most prefer
The stiller motions of your day.

ALL THREE. From seeing this we draw our strength,
But what You
are, oh who can say?
And all your great works are as great
As on the first creating day.

MEPHISTOPHELES. Lord, since you've stopped by here again,
liking to know
How all of us are doing, for which we're grateful,
And since you've never made me feel
de trop,
Well, here I am too with your other people.
Excuse, I hope, my lack of eloquence,
Though this whole host, I'm sure, will think I'm stupid.
Coming from me, high-sounding sentiments
Would only make you laugh—that is, provided
Laughing is a thing Your Worship still did
About suns and worlds I don't know beans, I only see
How mortals find their lives pure misery.
Earth's little god's shaped out of the same old clay,
He's the same queer fish he was on the first day.
He'd be much better off, in my opinion, without
The bit of heavenly light you dealt him out.
He calls it Reason, and the use he puts it to?
To act more beastly than beasts ever do.
To me he seems, if you'll pardon my saying so,
Like a long-legged grasshopper all of whose leaping
Only lands him back in the grass again chirping
The tune he's always chirped. And if only he'd
Stay put in the grass! But no! It's an absolute need
With him to creep and crawl and strain and sweat
And stick his nose in every pile of dirt.

THE LORD. Is that all you have got to say to me?
Is that all you can do, accuse eternally?
Is nothing ever right for you down there, sir?

MEPHISTOPHELES. No, nothing, Lord—all's just as bad as ever.
I really pity humanity's myriad miseries,
I swear I hate tormenting the poor ninnies.

THE LORD. Do you know Faust?

MEPHISTOPHELES. The Doctor?

THE LORD. My good servant!

MEPHISTOPHELES. You don't say! He serves you, I think, very
queerly,
Finds meat and drink, the fool, in nothing earthly,
Drives madly on, there's in him such a torment,
He himself is half aware he's crazy;
Heaven's brightest stars he imperiously requires
And from the earth its most exciting pleasures;
All, all, the near at hand and far and wide,
Leave your good servant quite unsatisfied.

THE LORD. If today his service shows confused, disordered,
With my help he will see the way clear forward;
When the sapling greens, the gardener can feel certain
Flower and fruit will follow in due season.

MEPHISTOPHELES. Would you care to bet on that? You'll lose,
I tell you,
If you'll give me leave to lead the fellow
Gently down my broad, my primrose path.

THE LORD As long as Faustus walks the earth
I shan't, I promise, interfere.
While still man strives, still he must err.

MEPHISTOPHELES. Well thank you, Lord—it's not the dead and gone
I like dealing with. By far what I prefer
Are round and rosy cheeks. When corpses come
A-knocking, sorry, Master's left the house;
My way of working's the cat's way with a mouse.

THE LORD. So it's agreed, you have my full consent.
Divert the soul of Faust from its true source
And if you're able, lead him along, Hell bent
With you, upon the downward course—
Then blush for shame to find you must admit:
For all his dark impulses, imperfect sight,
A good man always knows the way that's right.

MEPHISTOPHELES. Of course, of course! Yet I'll seduce him from it
Soon enough. I'm not afraid I'll lose my bet.
And after I have won it,
You won't, I trust, begrudge me
My whoops of triumph, shouts of victory.
Dust he'll eat
And find that he enjoys it, exactly like
That old aunt of mine, the famous snake.

THE LORD. There too feel free, you have carte blanche.
I've never hated your likes much;
I find of all the spirits of denial,
You jeerers not my severest trial.
Man's very quick to slacken in his effort,
What he likes best is Sunday peace and quiet;
So I'm glad to give him a devil—for his own good,
To prod and poke and incite him as a devil should.
[To the Angels] But you who are God's true and faithful
progeny—
Delight in the world's wealth of living beauty!
May the force that makes all life-forms to evolve,
Enfold you in the dear confines of love,
And the fitfullness, the flux of all appearance,
By enduring thoughts give enduring forms to its transience.
[The Heavens close, the Archangels withdraw.]

MEPHISTOPHELES. I like to see the Old Man now and then,
And take good care I don't fall out with him.
How very decent of a Lord Celestial
To talk man to man with the Devil of all people.


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  • Publication date ‏ : ‎ July 29, 2014
  • Edition ‏ : ‎ Revised
  • Language ‏ : ‎ English
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